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Taking Back the Steppe vk 4502 (p) ausf. a by shank117 Taking Back the Steppe vk 4502 (p) ausf. a by shank117
a vk 4502 (p) ausf. a i drew and a nazi Ta183 jet flying by i also threw in some panzergrenadiers on top of the tank and in the far background is a stug e100 with the forward mounted gun this picture is set to take place in november of 1946 after the germans had held back the russians on the russian border and the allies had been defeated in the bulge the war grinded to a stalemate and the germans where able to produce their super weapons in underground facilitys and now they strike back. Will the allies survive? this is just a cool little concept i did.... as always please comment and also the Vk has zimmerit on it
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ColonelBSacquet Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013
Praise God they were not able to improve the design of their new weapons nor to produce it in sufficient numbers on time. :-(
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shank117 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
yes thats good as they had the best weaponry and design of all the countries because they where given no limits so they could design some crazy good equipment but i wish us as the allies would have moved on and crushed the soviets too when they where at thier critical moment in world war two like patton and mcarthur wanted to but patton was killed by the oss in a "car accident" and Mcaurther removed from position because threat of war is a good economy builder to some
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RavenRock101 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014
That being said, REALLY REALLY cool artwork and it's pretty awesome that you both do this and work in a gun shop. 
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shank117 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
but thank you i appreciate the kind words and it is great getting to work at a gun store too
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RavenRock101 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014
Oh yeah not even going to lie I'd love to be able to draw like this. Maybe I'll work on it.
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RavenRock101 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014
Yeah I don't see the combined Allied Powers having a breath against the Red Army at the end of the war. They had faaaar superior ground and air force presence in the West AND superior ground forces in the East. They were entirely industrially self-sufficient and had no naval dependency, so the economic and naval strength which brought us victory over Japan and allowed us combat the Germans so effectively wouldn't even be factors. The Soviets had more tanks than the U.S. and Britain combined, and a comparable air force size overall, but arguably of greater quality when one considers that the Red Army of 1945 was one that had been destroyed and reforged in the flames of the greatest war fought in human history. The Great Patriotic War. It had to take extreme arrogance and a very skewed view of the war indeed to honestly believe the US alone could defeat the USSR of the late 40s. 
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shank117 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
no in 1945 the russians where running very low on man power they where at a very weak point and mind you the operation would have taken all the allied forces which would have at least ran them out of eastern europe
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RavenRock101 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014
There were Soviet armies in Germany the size of the entire population of British Isles, the Red Army of 1945 was known as the "Soviet Steamroller" for a very good reason. Take Kursk, the last great German offensive in the East. It was fought in July 1943, in the grain belt immediately surrounding the city of Kursk, namesake of the battle which happens to be just 300 or so kilometer southwest of Moscow. Approximately 2,000 km lie between Moscow and Berlin. About 250 km lie between Paris and Berlin. In Russia from the months of October to April, seven months out of the year, moving troops, especially in offensive, is practically impossible over great distances (great being over 50km) considering the discontinuous railroad system which changes gauges at every national border, the lack of rolling stock AND locomotives on both sides,  the continuous destruction of railroad equipment due to "scorched earth" delay and denial actions, without even mentioning the very poor and dilapidated road system rendered absolutely unusable by mud and winter conditions during that seven month period. However during the five months left in the year for movement, ten months for the years of 1944 and 1945, Russia managed to drive the best army the world has ever seen (can we agree on that) across that massive distance (just under 2000km) in about the space of a year, the ten months of movement. Meanwhile American and British troops say they "let the Russians beat them" to Berlin even though they'd had from June 44 to May 45, a solid 11 months against MUCH less resistance (At any given time at least %80 of the Wehrmacht was deployed on the Eastern Front) to cover all of about 300 km between the beaches and Berlin. AND they didn't face the attrition suffered by Eastern belligerents done by both environmental conditions and contact with the enemy during the months where a war of movement was impossible. So I can say with confidence that the Red Army of 1945 could in fact beaten us to the moon had they left a little early and packed some extra T-34s.
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shank117 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
im not saying that i don't agree with you but im talking about Pattons plan of getting what was left of the German armored forces combined with all allied forces and they just wanted to get the Russians out of eastern Europe and i thought that the Russians where very low on manpower at the end of the the war with their all in type of warfare im just glad it didn't happen cause much more peace the way it turned out, but i do want to add on little piece of allied power to the chess game and that is the atom bomb which the Russians at the time did not have and the Americans would have had the capacity to make a few after the only two they had left where dropped at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. By the way just wanted you to know im not really arguing with you i like to discuss strategies and what if scenarios. I just hope what i had said before didn't anger you
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RavenRock101 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014
Oh no not angry at all, in fact I really appreciate the conversation. I was discussing this with a colleague earlier and he brought up the atom bomb as well, but keep in mind the only delivery system available for atomic weapons were bombers, and in the time that it would've taken for another bomb to be produced and transported across the Atlantic unless Allied forces were in Poland, which I strongly doubt considering the ground superiority granted by such armor as the IS-3 and T-34 (10k more produced at the time than all models of Sherman combined) to the Red Army. The air war strikes me as harder to decide, considering the U.S. and Britain both had technically superior bombers, though Soviet fighters were capable of reaching the high altitudes necessary to combat even B-29s (their high altitude capabilities being their prime defense against the Japanese), let alone the 17s, 24s, and Lancasters that were the only long range high altitude strategic bombers in strength in the west.
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